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Gloire de Seibel

SpeciesShare of its ancestry traced back to each wild grape species, through the most probable parents. Unknown: lines no source traces back.
  • V. vinifera34%
  • V. labrusca19%
SeasonBased on véraison, when the berries start to colour, with slow and early springs removed. About 9 days later than the average variety.
Late
Origin
Seibel, Albert

Origins

The most probable parents of Gloire de Seibel, and what each source says.

ParentsDNA-confirmedA DNA (marker) study confirmed this parent.Sources agreeTwo or more sources name this parent, without DNA proof.One source onlyOnly one source names this parent.⚠ Sources disagreeSources name different parents, or a DNA test did not confirm the stated one.UnknownNo source names this parent.

Mother (seed parent)
Seibel 867Sources agree

VIVC names Seibel 867; USDA GRIN agrees; Chateau Stripmine agrees

Father (pollen parent)
Seibel 452Sources agree

VIVC names Seibel 452; USDA GRIN agrees; Chateau Stripmine agrees

Most probable recent ancestors of Gloire de Seibel. Fainter lines are less certain links. Click a variety for details.Full family tree →
What each source says (3 sources)

✓ matches the most probable parent · ✓ ⇄ same parent, but listed as the other parent · ≈ described only by species, consistent · – this source doesn't know this parent, no conflict · ≠ names a different one · struck through = not confirmed by a DNA test.

SourceMother (seed parent)Father (pollen parent)Basis
VIVC
VIVC passport #4825 ↗
Seibel 867 Seibel 452 Catalogue record
Original wording

SEIBEL 867

SEIBEL 452

USDA GRIN
GRIN accession #1006535 ↗
Seibel 867 Seibel 452 Genebank record
Original wording

Seibel 867 (Seibel 2003 x Noah) x Seibel 452 (Alicante Ganzin x Seibel 1) - V. aestivalis, V. cinerea, V. labrusca, V. lincecumii, V. riparia, V. rupestris, V. vinifera

Chateau Stripmine
Albert Seibel — crosses list ↗
Seibel 867 Seibel 452 Compiled list (original sources not recorded)
Original wording

Listed on Albert Seibel — crosses list: seed parent Seibel 867, pollen parent Seibel 452.

Row as shown on the site: Seibel 5409 · Gloire de Seibel · Seibel 867 · Seibel 452 · G V · Blanc · H

Chateau Stripmine compiles many publications without recording which one each line comes from, so its agreement counts for less than an independent genebank.

Sources checked: VIVC: gives a pedigree · Chateau Stripmine: gives a pedigree · USDA GRIN: gives a pedigree

Breeding records
Breeder
Seibel, Albert — VIVC
Breeder
Seibel, Albert — Chateau Stripmine
Breeder
Seibel, Albert, Finger Lakes Wine Growers — USDA GRIN
Stated pedigree
SEIBEL 867 X SEIBEL 452 — VIVC
Stated pedigree
Seibel 867 (Seibel 2003 x Noah) x Seibel 452 (Alicante Ganzin x Seibel 1) - V. aestivalis, V. cinerea, V. labrusca, V. lincecumii, V. riparia, V. rupestris, V. vinifera — USDA GRIN

Species ancestry

Gloire de Seibel's ancestry is traced back to wild species for about 94%; the rest is unknown. Depending on which source is right, between 88% and 94% is traced.

  • V. vinifera34%
  • V. riparia6%(0%–6%)
  • V. labrusca19%(13%–19%)
  • V. rupestris19%(13%–25%)
  • V. aestivalis13%(13%–19%)
  • V. cinerea3%
  • Father unknown (open-pollinated)6%(6%–13%)

How certain is the whole lineage?Covers every generation back to wild species, not just the parents: each part of the lineage counts its weakest link.Sources agree all the way: Traced to wild species through links where sources agree (or DNA confirms).Includes a one-source link: Traced through at least one link given by a single source.Includes a disputed link: Traced through at least one link the sources disagree on.Father unknown (open-pollinated): Reaches a seedling whose father is unknown (open-pollinated).

Following every line of Gloire de Seibel's ancestry back to wild species: about 55% rests on sources that agree (no DNA proof somewhere); about 14% relies on a single source somewhere; about 25% passes through a link the sources disagree on; about 6% can't be traced (unknown parent or open-pollinated).

  • Sources agree all the way55%
  • Includes a one-source link14%
  • Includes a disputed link25%
  • Father unknown (open-pollinated)6%

In the vineyard

How Gloire de Seibel behaves in a test vineyard: when it buds, flowers and ripens, and what its fruit is like.

Season timingi

Compared with the average variety, early and late springs removed. Compare with all varieties →

BudbreakBuds open in spring. Early budbreak means more risk from late spring frost.about 5 days earlier than average4 seasons, 1 place

Gloire de Seibel
FMaréchal FochMMarquetteSSeyval BlancVVidalGloire de Seibel
1 week
Sites and seasons (4)
Geneva, NY 2009
FMaréchal FochVVidalGloire de Seibel
Geneva, NY 2011
FMaréchal FochSSeyval BlancVVidalGloire de Seibel
Geneva, NY 201217 days early that year
FMaréchal FochSSeyval BlancVVidalGloire de Seibel
Geneva, NY 2013
FMaréchal FochVVidalGloire de Seibel
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Budbreak
SeasonGloire de SeibelMaréchal FochMarquetteSeyval BlancVidal
Geneva, NY 2009 ↗+6−5––+8
Geneva, NY 2011 ↗−7−5–0+9
Geneva, NY 2012 ↗+21 *−22–+8+21
Geneva, NY 2013 ↗+2−2––+5

Days from that season's typical variety. * far off and set aside.

BloomFull flowering. Cold or rain at bloom can reduce fruit set.about 3 days later than average6 seasons, 1 place

Gloire de Seibel
FMaréchal FochMMarquetteSSeyval BlancVVidalGloire de Seibel
1 week
Sites and seasons (6)
Geneva, NY 1995
FMaréchal FochSSeyval BlancVVidalGloire de Seibel
Geneva, NY 2008
FMaréchal FochSSeyval BlancVVidalGloire de Seibel
Geneva, NY 2009
FMaréchal FochSSeyval BlancVVidalGloire de Seibel
Geneva, NY 2011
FMaréchal FochSSeyval BlancVVidalGloire de Seibel
Geneva, NY 20128 days early that year
FMaréchal FochSSeyval BlancVVidalGloire de Seibel
Geneva, NY 2013
FMaréchal FochSSeyval BlancVVidalGloire de Seibel
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Bloom
SeasonGloire de SeibelMaréchal FochMarquetteSeyval BlancVidal
Geneva, NY 1995 ↗−1−1–−2+5
Geneva, NY 2008 ↗+3−3–+2+11
Geneva, NY 2009 ↗+4−6–+4+8
Geneva, NY 2011 ↗+3−4–0+7
Geneva, NY 2012 ↗+8−6–+2+10
Geneva, NY 2013 ↗+1+1–+2+7

Days from that season's typical variety. * far off and set aside.

VéraisonBerries soften and change color: ripening begins. The later it comes, the longer the season the variety needs.about 9 days later than average3 seasons, 1 place

Gloire de Seibel
FMaréchal FochMMarquetteSSeyval BlancVVidalGloire de Seibel
1 week
Sites and seasons (3)
Geneva, NY 2011
FMaréchal FochSSeyval BlancGloire de Seibel
Geneva, NY 2012
FMaréchal FochSSeyval BlancGloire de Seibel
Geneva, NY 2013
FMaréchal FochSSeyval BlancGloire de Seibel
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Véraison
SeasonGloire de SeibelMaréchal FochMarquetteSeyval BlancVidal
Geneva, NY 2011 ↗+10−8–+7–
Geneva, NY 2012 ↗+25 *−9–+4–
Geneva, NY 2013 ↗+19−6–0–

Days from that season's typical variety. * far off and set aside.

  • Bloom about 42 days after budbreak (38 to 48, 3 seasons)

Measured at the USDA grape collection in Geneva, NYYour vineyard will differ: dates shift with your climate. How a variety compares with the others measured there travels better. · USDA GRIN ↗

Fruit and flowers

  • Cluster weightAverage of 10 clusters.Lighter than about 95% of the 74 varieties measured at Geneva, NY.one season (1995)
    50 g375 g
    50 glight
  • Cluster lengthAverage of 10 clusters.Shorter than about 95% of the 74 varieties measured at Geneva, NY.one season (1995)
    8 cm21 cm
    8 cmshort
  • Berry weightAverage of 10 berries.Lighter than about 80% of the 74 varieties measured at Geneva, NY.one season (1995)
    1.2 g5.4 g
    1.5 glight
  • Clusters per shootAverage over 10 shoots — a first hint at yield potential.More than about 65% of the 109 varieties measured at Geneva, NY.one season (1995)
    1.43.9
    2.6many

This variety (bar: earliest to latest season)Other varieties measured at Geneva, NYMost grown in our database:VidalConcord

Skin color
Green-yellow
Flesh
Not colored
FlavorFoxy: the grapey, Concord-like aroma of American (labrusca) grapes.
Distinctive (not muscat or foxy)
Seeds
Well-developed seeds
Berry shape
Round
FlowersHermaphrodite flowers pollinate themselves; female flowers need another variety planted nearby to set fruit.
Hermaphrodite (self-fertile, like Concord)